AKATSUKI LEADER REVEALED! (Spoilers)

[JoeJustJoe]

Sasuke lives....like we didn't see that coming, altho the title had me fooled for a second. But I wasn't expecting to see the leader's face!

It's this dude!
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w69/bigboy_flesh08/narutoakatsukileader.jpg

Couldn't find a manga picture : /

[unchihanaruto]

yeh its him plus a grass village headband, 2 more nose piercing and loads more ear piercing lol

[Buck]

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/8351/18nf3.png

Colored by me...

[staticshade]

anyone have any idea who he might be ? cos he doesnt look like the fourth hokage anymore as rumours had said

[Buck]

He's a new character from the rain village named Pein

[Red X]

So hes not the leader? >>

[Buck]

He is kind of the leader, by the looks of it, he has someone else leading him. So the leader has a leader

[Grega]

I really like this kind of stuff. You get so far to expose the leader. To just find out he is only a pupet for someone else XD

[Red X]

So thats the guy thats always in the shadows? With the crazy looking eyes?

[Tokimemo]

That Madaara Uchiha the first Uchiha ever the sharingahn is a mixed with the Hyuugas clans Burakugahn and some magic guys power witch formed the sharingahn thats why his eyes are a lil different then other sharingahns If you remember when Itachi killed his Parents he told Sasuke that if Sasuke would unlock Mangekyou Sharingahn that he would be the 3rd 1 alive with the ability well he Itachi is able to and Madaara is able to sasuke would be the third ^^welcome if you didnt allready know

[staticshade]

Thats a lot to take in how did he manage that and there are four now kakashi can use mangekyou sharingan as well

naruto is getting even more interesting woot!

[Red X]

Thats a lot to take in how did he manage that and there are four now kakashi can use mangekyou sharingan as well

naruto is getting even more interesting woot!

yea, go kakashi! =D but wow thats crazy...so the leader of the akatsuki is madaara uchiha eh?

[Buck]

no... Akatsuki Leader dosnt have sharigan as we know yet.

[Mobius]

God damn it! SPOILER! YOU SHOULD ALWAYS PUT *SPOILER* in the TOPIC NaMe when putting up big things!

>.<

[mangekyosasuke]

mobius it sort of obvious that its a spoiler cause akatsuki leader wasn't revealed until now but anyway who do u guys think the real leader is

[Tokimemo]

here lol take all this in lol see what i mean the leader is Madaara Uchiha and he does have sharingahn read this..............

Hyuuga clan is one of the oldest clans in Konoha. They have been there ever since the establishment of the hidden village. Many years ago there was a girl from Hyuuga clan who fell in love with an outsider that didn’t belong to the village. She decided to marry herself to the young man despite the strong protests from her own clan. But this man was no ordinary human. In fact, this man was not a human at all. His name was Sojobo. He was the King of Tengu.

There were two types of tengus, Karasu tengu (a crow-like creature with beak and wings) and Konoha tengu (also known as Yamabushi tengu). Sojobo was a Konoha tengu. He had long nose and white hair with a pair of black wings on his back. As the King of Tengu, Sojobo possessed some very mystical powers. He carried a fan made of Fatsia leaf that could create a storm (therefore people sometimes call this type of leaf as Tengu no Uchiwa or Tengu’s fan). He could teleport himself or any other things from one place to another. He could also communicate with people telepathically or even invade their minds and drive them to madness. Besides, Sojobo was also known for his shapeshifting ability. He sometimes transformed himself into human to interact with people.


Anyway, this girl from Hyuuga was in love with Sojobo taking the human form without knowing his true identity. She married him shortly after they met each other. A year or two later, she was pregnant and gave birth to their first son. Sojobo named this son Uchiha, Uchiha Madara, after Uchiwa which means fan. And of course as we know, fan also later became the symbol of this new clan.

Everything was good. Uchiha Madara soon grew up to become a very powerful shinobi. He not only inherited the Kekkei Genkai from his mother but with the Tengu blood inside him the Byakugan had evolved into an even more dreadful form—the Sharingan! This new bloodline had 2 levels: Normal Sharingan and Mangekyou Sharingan. Like his tengu father, Madara possessed some incredible magical powers. He was able to use telepathy to invade people’s minds, or even teleport himself across a short distance. When he turned on the Mangekyou Sharingan (he had the normal Sharingan on 24/7 just like his Hyuuga kin), the eyes would further intensify his powers and bring him even closer to a tengu form. He had developed 3 jutsus under this state, namely Tsukiyomi (to control people’s minds and drive them insane), Amaterasu (to teleport objects into another dimension)* and Susanoo (to create a storm like the one created by the Tengu’s fan).


1) Tsukiyomi—God of the Moon
Full moon is usually related to going insane in urban legends. (Itachi used Tsukiyomi on Sasuke on a full moon night. Coincidence? Or well planned by Kishi?)

MS Tsukiyomi: Drives people insane.

2) Amaterasu—Goddess of the Sun
Our Sun is a huge fireball. Its matter can warp the spacetime around it that produces an effect which we call gravity (In fact all matter can warp the spacetime around it, to a certain extent). Although our Sun doesn't have enough mass to form a blackhole, other more massive stars can, after their deaths (in a spectacular way called supernova explosion)

MS Amaterasu: Teleports things to another dimension by warping the spacetime, leaving a dark fire that will burn for 7 days and 7 nights to destroy the surroundings.

*A point supporting this is that Kakashi used his left eye to cast the jutsu (did he have a choice? XD) and Amaterasu was born from the left eye of Izanagi

3)Susanoo—God of the Storm

MS Susanoo: Creates a storm?



Something to think about: Uchiha Shisui was feared as ”Shunshin no Shisui” but was it really the D-rank jutsu Shunshin that he mastered or was it something else…



Because of his bravery and almost unparalleled powers, Madara soon became a hero in his people’s eyes despite the fact that he was just a teenager at that time. He became very close friends with Shodaime and together they took up the responsibility to protect the village. Madara founded the first police force in Konoha and swore to protect his people with his own life.

But good things do not last long. As Madara was about to reach his adulthood, Sojobo began to reveal his true intention. Sojobo didn’t marry the girl from Hyuuga out of love. He was only looking for a perfect body, a container (probably to achieve greater powers), and he figured the best way was to create one with his own blood. He was planning on taking over Madara’s body once he reached his adulthood. It didn’t take Uchiha Madara too long to find out this appalling truth. He felt a mixture of shock and anger. He felt himself being used but he wasn’t going to give up his body such easily, at least not without a fight. But Madara knew too well that no matter how strong he was he stood no chance against the King of Tengu. Out of desperation he sought for the legendary Bijuu—Kyuubi (the God of Fire).

Kyuubi was very impressed by Madara’s abilities. A secret pact was made and Kyuubi agreed to lend his power and chakra to Uchiha Madara. Soon Madara had mastered the katon no jutsus and he could even cast a dark fire that would burn for 7 days and 7 nights after performing the Amaterasu. But even with these newly gained powers and unlimited supply of chakra from Kyuubi, Uchiha Madara only barely defeated his demon father. He couldn’t finish him once and for all but only managed to seal him up. However, the seal he used was a very special one. To break the seal it requires Kyuubi’s chakra and also not one but 3 Uchiha members who can wield the Mangekyou Sharingan. Each MS user has to cast a different MS jutsu at the same time and when the 3 jutsus, Tsukiyomi, Amaterasu and Susanoo, combine, the great evil will be unleashed. Since this was a hard condition to meet Madara thought it would be enough to seal up the demon for eternity. But what Madara didn’t anticipate was this seal would trigger a bloody massacre on the Uchiha clan decades later…

Here I will derail a bit and let’s talk about the friendship between Shodaime and Madara. When Shodai found out about the secret pact between Madara and Kyuubi he was very angry. He thought it was the hunger for power that brought his best friend to Kyuubi. Madara didn’t explain to him either because he didn’t want anybody to know that he was a half-demon. Conflicts began to appear between the two who were once close to each other. The intense hostility finally led to a great battle at the Valley of the End. You might doubt that Shodai could rival both MS and Kyuubi’s power at the same time. Well you better not forget that Shodai had the ability to suppress Kyuubi’s chakra but that’s beside the point.

Many years had come into past since Sojobo was sealed. The tengu’s blood in Uchiha clan was now no longer as pure as it once was. It was gradually “diluted” by constant marriages with non-Uchihas over the generations. Now even the Normal Sharingan was possessed only by the elite few among Uchihas, let alone the Mangekyou Sharingan. But the dark history of the clan was anything but forgotten. A tengu shrine was built underneath the Nakano temple by some of the early Uchiha ancestors to keep all the secrets of the clan inside (including killing your loved one to gain MS which was discovered by some later Uchiha ancestors). Once an Uchiha member was thought to be reliable enough he would be told about the secret meeting place and it would become his life-long obligation to keep these secrets from outsiders. The Uchihas considered this dark history as a huge disgrace and swore to protect the glory and dignity of their clan with their lives no matter what happened.

20 years ago, a new member was born into an Uchiha family. He soon proved himself to be a very special one, even by the high standards of the Uchiha. He graduated at the top of his class at age 7, mastered the Sharingan at 8, became a Chunin at 10 and an ANBU squad leader at 13. His name was Uchiha Itachi. As Itachi was selected to become an ANBU his father Fugaku felt that it was the right time to tell him everything. Itachi learned about the Mangekyou Sharingan and the origin of his clan from his father. Deep inside his mind, an evil thought began to take shape…

One night, when all men of Uchiha were supposed to gather at the secret meeting place two of them were absent. Itachi lured his best friend Uchiha Shisui to the Nakano river and started his horrendous plan. He killed Shisui on that night and obtained the accursed eye powers—Mangekyou Sharingan. The next day when people found Uchiha Shisui’s body they also found a suicide note. But of course the note wasn’t really written by Shisui. Itachi forged his handwriting with the Sharingan to make it looks like a suicide. What was written on the note was actually Itachi’s own feeling.

[Tokimemo]

oh and yes kakashi does have mangekyou sharingahn but his is not close to that of itashia and sasukes so his cant do the same things as theres not close so ya lol

[Grega]

Id be interested in knowing where you picked up that info. Till you give a link im calling it compleete bullshit ^^

[Buck]

Well first, Madara, we dont know if he is the leaders leader and if he is even alive. Sasuke dosnt have that sharigan yet either.

[Red X]

I doubt what he said was bullshit because nobody would go out of their way to write such a detailed story...unless they have no life.

[Morito]

how old is that akatsuki leader ? :)

[Uchia_Itachi]

That Madaara Uchiha the first Uchiha ever the sharingahn is a mixed with the Hyuugas clans Burakugahn and some magic guys power witch formed the sharingahn thats why his eyes are a lil different then other sharingahns If you remember when Itachi killed his Parents he told Sasuke that if Sasuke would unlock Mangekyou Sharingahn that he would be the 3rd 1 alive with the ability well he Itachi is able to and Madaara is able to sasuke would be the third ^^welcome if you didnt allready know


quote of the year.



anywho yeah this guy is indeed the leader of akatski, but it seems someone else is pulling the strings behind this whole jinnjuriki(sp?) collecting.
but you gatta admit this guy look a lot like naruto (expect for the piercing and orange hair). so i can see there the why 4th being the leader thing was started( i never believed it tho)

[staticshade]

doesnt anyone remeber when sasuke used the sharingan to see into naruto and talked to the demon fox the fox told him he reminded him of one madara uchiha that most have been who this guy is but damn ho did u get all that info

[Grega]

I think its either made up or copied from a shitty fansite. The kinds that state "correct" DBZ powerlevels.

Naruto had those things comming considering its success.

[mangekyosasuke]

no its really the 2nd in command the leader hasn't been revealed

[Nyberg]

here lol take all this in lol see what i mean the leader is Madaara Uchiha and he does have sharingahn read this..............

Hyuuga clan is one of the oldest clans in Konoha. They have been there ever since the establishment of the hidden village. Many years ago there was a girl from Hyuuga clan who fell in love with an outsider that didn’t belong to the village. She decided to marry herself to the young man despite the strong protests from her own clan. But this man was no ordinary human. In fact, this man was not a human at all. His name was Sojobo. He was the King of Tengu.

There were two types of tengus, Karasu tengu (a crow-like creature with beak and wings) and Konoha tengu (also known as Yamabushi tengu). Sojobo was a Konoha tengu. He had long nose and white hair with a pair of black wings on his back. As the King of Tengu, Sojobo possessed some very mystical powers. He carried a fan made of Fatsia leaf that could create a storm (therefore people sometimes call this type of leaf as Tengu no Uchiwa or Tengu’s fan). He could teleport himself or any other things from one place to another. He could also communicate with people telepathically or even invade their minds and drive them to madness. Besides, Sojobo was also known for his shapeshifting ability. He sometimes transformed himself into human to interact with people.


Anyway, this girl from Hyuuga was in love with Sojobo taking the human form without knowing his true identity. She married him shortly after they met each other. A year or two later, she was pregnant and gave birth to their first son. Sojobo named this son Uchiha, Uchiha Madara, after Uchiwa which means fan. And of course as we know, fan also later became the symbol of this new clan.

Everything was good. Uchiha Madara soon grew up to become a very powerful shinobi. He not only inherited the Kekkei Genkai from his mother but with the Tengu blood inside him the Byakugan had evolved into an even more dreadful form—the Sharingan! This new bloodline had 2 levels: Normal Sharingan and Mangekyou Sharingan. Like his tengu father, Madara possessed some incredible magical powers. He was able to use telepathy to invade people’s minds, or even teleport himself across a short distance. When he turned on the Mangekyou Sharingan (he had the normal Sharingan on 24/7 just like his Hyuuga kin), the eyes would further intensify his powers and bring him even closer to a tengu form. He had developed 3 jutsus under this state, namely Tsukiyomi (to control people’s minds and drive them insane), Amaterasu (to teleport objects into another dimension)* and Susanoo (to create a storm like the one created by the Tengu’s fan).


1) Tsukiyomi—God of the Moon
Full moon is usually related to going insane in urban legends. (Itachi used Tsukiyomi on Sasuke on a full moon night. Coincidence? Or well planned by Kishi?)

MS Tsukiyomi: Drives people insane.

2) Amaterasu—Goddess of the Sun
Our Sun is a huge fireball. Its matter can warp the spacetime around it that produces an effect which we call gravity (In fact all matter can warp the spacetime around it, to a certain extent). Although our Sun doesn't have enough mass to form a blackhole, other more massive stars can, after their deaths (in a spectacular way called supernova explosion)

MS Amaterasu: Teleports things to another dimension by warping the spacetime, leaving a dark fire that will burn for 7 days and 7 nights to destroy the surroundings.

*A point supporting this is that Kakashi used his left eye to cast the jutsu (did he have a choice? XD) and Amaterasu was born from the left eye of Izanagi

3)Susanoo—God of the Storm

MS Susanoo: Creates a storm?



Something to think about: Uchiha Shisui was feared as ”Shunshin no Shisui” but was it really the D-rank jutsu Shunshin that he mastered or was it something else…



Because of his bravery and almost unparalleled powers, Madara soon became a hero in his people’s eyes despite the fact that he was just a teenager at that time. He became very close friends with Shodaime and together they took up the responsibility to protect the village. Madara founded the first police force in Konoha and swore to protect his people with his own life.

But good things do not last long. As Madara was about to reach his adulthood, Sojobo began to reveal his true intention. Sojobo didn’t marry the girl from Hyuuga out of love. He was only looking for a perfect body, a container (probably to achieve greater powers), and he figured the best way was to create one with his own blood. He was planning on taking over Madara’s body once he reached his adulthood. It didn’t take Uchiha Madara too long to find out this appalling truth. He felt a mixture of shock and anger. He felt himself being used but he wasn’t going to give up his body such easily, at least not without a fight. But Madara knew too well that no matter how strong he was he stood no chance against the King of Tengu. Out of desperation he sought for the legendary Bijuu—Kyuubi (the God of Fire).

Kyuubi was very impressed by Madara’s abilities. A secret pact was made and Kyuubi agreed to lend his power and chakra to Uchiha Madara. Soon Madara had mastered the katon no jutsus and he could even cast a dark fire that would burn for 7 days and 7 nights after performing the Amaterasu. But even with these newly gained powers and unlimited supply of chakra from Kyuubi, Uchiha Madara only barely defeated his demon father. He couldn’t finish him once and for all but only managed to seal him up. However, the seal he used was a very special one. To break the seal it requires Kyuubi’s chakra and also not one but 3 Uchiha members who can wield the Mangekyou Sharingan. Each MS user has to cast a different MS jutsu at the same time and when the 3 jutsus, Tsukiyomi, Amaterasu and Susanoo, combine, the great evil will be unleashed. Since this was a hard condition to meet Madara thought it would be enough to seal up the demon for eternity. But what Madara didn’t anticipate was this seal would trigger a bloody massacre on the Uchiha clan decades later…

Here I will derail a bit and let’s talk about the friendship between Shodaime and Madara. When Shodai found out about the secret pact between Madara and Kyuubi he was very angry. He thought it was the hunger for power that brought his best friend to Kyuubi. Madara didn’t explain to him either because he didn’t want anybody to know that he was a half-demon. Conflicts began to appear between the two who were once close to each other. The intense hostility finally led to a great battle at the Valley of the End. You might doubt that Shodai could rival both MS and Kyuubi’s power at the same time. Well you better not forget that Shodai had the ability to suppress Kyuubi’s chakra but that’s beside the point.

Many years had come into past since Sojobo was sealed. The tengu’s blood in Uchiha clan was now no longer as pure as it once was. It was gradually “diluted” by constant marriages with non-Uchihas over the generations. Now even the Normal Sharingan was possessed only by the elite few among Uchihas, let alone the Mangekyou Sharingan. But the dark history of the clan was anything but forgotten. A tengu shrine was built underneath the Nakano temple by some of the early Uchiha ancestors to keep all the secrets of the clan inside (including killing your loved one to gain MS which was discovered by some later Uchiha ancestors). Once an Uchiha member was thought to be reliable enough he would be told about the secret meeting place and it would become his life-long obligation to keep these secrets from outsiders. The Uchihas considered this dark history as a huge disgrace and swore to protect the glory and dignity of their clan with their lives no matter what happened.

20 years ago, a new member was born into an Uchiha family. He soon proved himself to be a very special one, even by the high standards of the Uchiha. He graduated at the top of his class at age 7, mastered the Sharingan at 8, became a Chunin at 10 and an ANBU squad leader at 13. His name was Uchiha Itachi. As Itachi was selected to become an ANBU his father Fugaku felt that it was the right time to tell him everything. Itachi learned about the Mangekyou Sharingan and the origin of his clan from his father. Deep inside his mind, an evil thought began to take shape…

One night, when all men of Uchiha were supposed to gather at the secret meeting place two of them were absent. Itachi lured his best friend Uchiha Shisui to the Nakano river and started his horrendous plan. He killed Shisui on that night and obtained the accursed eye powers—Mangekyou Sharingan. The next day when people found Uchiha Shisui’s body they also found a suicide note. But of course the note wasn’t really written by Shisui. Itachi forged his handwriting with the Sharingan to make it looks like a suicide. What was written on the note was actually Itachi’s own feeling.



That's only a theory. I've read it on narutofan forum a couple of months before.

[Morito]

this face doesnt look at all like him so he cant be 4th i think
http://www.saiyanisland.com/naruto/info/KakashiGaiden/Yondaime.gif

[Overheat]

it can't be the fourth hokage cause he died when sealing kyuubi inside naruto.

[Buck]

Its a new character... his name is Pein.

[Tokimemo]

lol im telling you int madarra uchiha i garantee it is but i guess you will figure it out on your own later on lol watch

[mangekyosasuke]

it is tobi tobi is the leader i believe he is madra but and that would make it so there are 4 mangekyo sharingans just like itachi said....also theres gonna be a amazing batle kakashi vs itachi vs sasuke vs tobi....who wins?

[unchihanaruto]

it is tobi tobi is the leader i believe he is madra but and that would make it so there are 4 mangekyo sharingans just like itachi said....also theres gonna be a amazing batle kakashi vs itachi vs sasuke vs tobi....who wins?

ME!!!!! soz, naruto would interven and fight sasuke, suigestu would fight itachi, kisame v tobi XD, kakshi v.... pein?

[paradise]

i believe kakashi will fight obito
sasuke with itachi...
and sasuke will win that for sure! ^-^

[unchihanaruto]

tobi isn't obito, the obito = tobi theory has one major flaw, obito = crushed under tonnes of rock

[saluti]

do u guys know about naruto clash of ninja revolution????



it comes out 10/23/07



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[Uchia_Itachi]

and misplaced

[Buck]

Right now as we know, there was no Tobi, he was just a made up character who was really Uchia Madara

[farguc]

He is kind of the leader, by the looks of it, he has someone else leading him. So the leader has a leader

thats confusing ,a leadeh of teh leadeh ?

[JoeJustJoe]

Tobi didn't say He WAS Uchiha Madara, he said he has the POWER OF UCHIHA MADARA (doesn't mean he IS)...

The tobi=obito theory is still standing...

Obito=Crushed the right side of his body under rocks, and only one sharingan (gave other to kakashi) and died

Tobi=Stitches and bolts on the right side of his body, only one eye (left eye) shown to be a sharingan eye...i think tobi and kakashi will fight, and tobi (obito) will take his eye back

[Grega]

But Kakashi got Obitos left eye since the right one was also crushed under the rock.

[Morito]

that tobi dosent really look like a uchiha member for me :S

[thebizmachine]

Does anyone remember how a Sharingan user acquires a Mangekyou Sharingan?

The person must first kill his best friend.

Itachi Uchiha killed Shisui Uchiha
Hatake Kakashi killed Obito Uchiha - Before anyone says that he didn't, although Obito would have died anyway, Kakashi taking his eye hastened this death. - This is at least my opinion on the matter. Its also possible that you may only have to lose a best friend, and not actually kill them.
Either way Sasuke has not lost a "best friend" where as its easy to see that Kakashi and Itachi have lost them.

Now if Sasuke were to succeed in actually killing Naruto presumably, he would aquire his own Mangekyou.

So there are the 3 people capable of having Mangekyou.

Also its presumed that Tobi (Madara Uchiha) may actually be younger than both Sasuke or Itachi. Like a younger brother. Because Zetsu refers to him as a "Good Boy" in a previous manga chapter.

[JoeJustJoe]

If the right half of tobi's head was crushed he wouldn't be alive to give kakashi the eye (plz re-read manga)

[Grega]

If the right half of tobi's head was crushed he wouldn't be alive to give kakashi the eye (plz re-read manga)

Yea i just rellooked at Kakashi Gaiden. Obito has his left side pinned under the rock. Not the right side ^^

[B.C]

I taught his right side crushed cause Kakashi got sharingan on left lol..
and tobi's face looks weird like he take over some guys body/face

[Grega]

I taught his right side crushed cause Kakashi got sharingan on left lol..
and tobi's face looks weird like he take over some guys body/face

Sorry Joe confused me a bit and then i m,ixed up the sides.

http://ldme.free.fr/images/kakashi_gaiden/mini-31.jpg

That pic says right side of body = crushed.

[Some Brother Named Craig]

BIG SPOILER!!!!!

Pein is actually Naruto's brother. Pein is 19 years old.His original name was Naruto given to him by his dad the 4th Hokage. Its a pretty long story of how he got the name Pein and how he has a Rain headband.

[Grega]

And you know that from where?

[beastboy2099]

lol the people that only have 1-5 posts that post about something rediculous and stilll expect people to fall for it make me laugh

[unchihanaruto]

well we know narutos family isn't all leaf village origin =]

[JoeJustJoe]

Actually Tsunade and Jiraiya were talking about naruto's parents recently in the manga (spell check on Jiraiya?)

[unchihanaruto]

thanks what i was on about joe ;]

If the right half of tobi's head was crushed he wouldn't be alive to give kakashi the eye (plz re-read manga)

ummm dude, u re read the manga, the cave continued collapsing

[Uchia_Itachi]

yeah naruto's mother is from the whirlpool country... idk pein might me related to naruto who knows, but that means the 4th was getting freaky at a young age.

the fourths real name is namikaze minato, his mother name is uzumaki kushina

4th's hair yellow+kushina's red= pein's orange?

[Grega]

4th's hair yellow+kushina's red= pein's orange?

I dont think hair color mixes that way ^^

[UchihaFury]

I think that Pein is evil. Don't you?

...

Maybe he's good...Very good...Mmmm....Cheesecake.

[Uchia_Itachi]

I dont think hair color mixes that way ^^

well i know simple genetics prove that theory wrong, tho this is anime and therefor immune to any logic.

[Grega]

Goopd point. Since i seem to remember Naruto smashing rocks with his head when Sasuke threw him into a cliff ^^

(valey of end fight) That kinda reminded me of DBZ without the flying XD

[unchihanaruto]

yes but how did u come up with pein and naruto being brothers? i mean come on can't u tell headband signs? pein is from rain village which as far as we know isn't in the whirlpool country.... we don't even know their villages sign

i meant no offense by this i just wan't to smash ur slightly unthought theory

[Uchia_Itachi]

yes but how did u come up with pein and naruto being brothers? i mean come on can't u tell headband signs? pein is from rain village which as far as we know isn't in the whirlpool country.... we don't even know their villages sign

i meant no offense by this i just wan't to smash ur slightly unthought theory

idk they look alike ( naruto and pein/pain) thats what i'm going off of. i'm actually 50/50 on it. also i think its kinda its weird that just as jiraya is going to confront pein/pain that tsunade and him start talking about naruto family. this could be foreshadowing something else say like, naruto having other living relatives, but who knows.

[unchihanaruto]

or the fact that naruto may meet his mother perhaps

[Yodaime]

the leader have another leader

[Grega]

So it seems. The boss isnt the boss at all. But has someone giving him orders.

[Yodaime]

this face doesnt look at all like him so he cant be 4th i think
http://www.saiyanisland.com/naruto/info/KakashiGaiden/Yondaime.gif

he is 4th hokage i think

[Grega]

The 4th is dead. He ussed the same Jutsu as the third used. A jutsu that kills the user after it was used.

The 4th used that jutsu to seal the deamon fox inside Naruto.

[Red X]

Well uhm, Grega wanted me to post here so I will.
The leader is Uchiha Madara. He's the one being called Tobi or w/e.

EDIT: And Pein is not related to Naruto as far as I know. His parents died in a war in the Rain Village.

[Manifest3r]

well, i think Obito would be the akatsuki leader since he even said half his body is crushed and he still has one sharingan...I think thats a pretty solid description coming from the manga...

[unchihanaruto]

does no-one understand the counter theory for tobi=obito theory?? wanna hear it??

obito = dead, crushed under the rocks after the cave COMPLETLY caved in, meaning in the end his whole body was crushed

[Grega]

well, i think Obito would be the akatsuki leader since he even said half his body is crushed and he still has one sharingan...I think thats a pretty solid description coming from the manga...

While half Obitos body got crushed. It was the wrong half.

If i remember correctly Obito got his right half crashed.

While the Akatsuki guy has his left side replaced by metal parts ^^

[Red X]

Did anybody comprehend what I said? D: Uchiha Madara is the leader. Not sure about his body being replaced by metal parts, but I know he did fight the hokage or w/e in the Valley of the End (if thats the name). He's the person in one of the statues.

EDIT: I just rethought all of this, and now I'm really unsure about the whole deal...lol Kakashi got Obito's left eye meaning his right side was crushed (like Grega said) but when I saw pics of Uchiha Madara with the swirly mask thing over his face, you could only see his right eye if I remember correctly. Not sure if that means anything though. So confused!

[Ozren]

Did anybody comprehend what I said? D: Uchiha Madara is the leader. Not sure about his body being replaced by metal parts, but I know he did fight the hokage or w/e in the Valley of the End (if thats the name). He's the person in one of the statues.

EDIT: I just rethought all of this, and now I'm really unsure about the whole deal...lol Kakashi got Obito's left eye meaning his right side was crushed (like Grega said) but when I saw pics of Uchiha Madara with the swirly mask thing over his face, you could only see his right eye if I remember correctly. Not sure if that means anything though. So confused!

Dude dont be so sure......Daidera did not even know he is Madara they think of him as Tobi.....And he has joind the akatsuki onley risentley!

[Grega]

Actually the 2 guys in the valey of end are the forst 2 hokages.

[Manifest3r]

O...M...G...the best idea in the WORLD! :

lets wait and see what happens! ...I know, it's genius, isn't it? :)

[Grega]

O...M...G...the best idea in the WORLD! :

lets wait and see what happens! ...I know, it's genius, isn't it? :)


Why wait to see the trouth when we can simply go on with this discussion guessing from the top of our heads and hope we are correct ^^

I mean seriously wich is more fun. I vote for guessing XD

[Dome]

What if someone used a technique like Orochimaru in the third hokage battle to revive obito by using someone else's body?
That would crush the whole 'obito is DEAD' theory...

[Grega]

What if someone used a technique like Orochimaru in the third hokage battle to revive obito by using someone else's body?
That would crush the whole 'obito is DEAD' theory...


Still wouldnt explain the wrong side of body crushed theory.